snram4
01-09 10:29 AM
It is easy to say than do. Flower Compaign worked once because they made a mistake. They can return the flowers to the senders. You cannot make law change in the divided issue that much easily.Hunger Strike could lead legal issues for participants some times. So that is impractical. For arranging rallies IV volunteers may have to work for months to organise. After some people's hardwork only a few hundred people will turn up. So rally will become get together.
I totally agree with you, I used to visit IV a lot, but was just disappointed with the results from some of its members. Not to blame IV core team, but other members who would just come and read blogs. Specially EAD holder's, I hope their eyes are opening up to new realities. Yesterday, my sister in law entered USA from Newark Airport and she witnessed three people holding HIB visas get cancelled at the immigration point, one had EAD.
All we Desi's want is a free ride, same old mentality, don't want to put in any diligence in this matter, but very quick on pointing short comings on others. Blame game!
Point is, we all need to do something radical, sending flowers again and holding a hunger strike, otherwise, keep coming to IV and keep getting disappointed.
Papu, maybe you can hold something up for once. Schedule a date for some event.
I totally agree with you, I used to visit IV a lot, but was just disappointed with the results from some of its members. Not to blame IV core team, but other members who would just come and read blogs. Specially EAD holder's, I hope their eyes are opening up to new realities. Yesterday, my sister in law entered USA from Newark Airport and she witnessed three people holding HIB visas get cancelled at the immigration point, one had EAD.
All we Desi's want is a free ride, same old mentality, don't want to put in any diligence in this matter, but very quick on pointing short comings on others. Blame game!
Point is, we all need to do something radical, sending flowers again and holding a hunger strike, otherwise, keep coming to IV and keep getting disappointed.
Papu, maybe you can hold something up for once. Schedule a date for some event.
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bigboy007
07-18 05:40 AM
Dude, You might be a new entry in to the ball of Immigration now. As said earlier , every one is free to judge and post the queries. If IV is shutting door of any questions you wouldnt have seen forum threads. There is enough discussion and direction taken on information being released to ALL members. Why one should complain IV not doing anything ?
here are some atleast, immaterial you agree or not:
1. If ppl are reaping benefits of EAD for multiple years , its becoz of IV.
2. whole of July fiasco was a win becoz of IV , not sure whether you are in the boat, but i can see the pain and how IV helped all of us.
3. all the admin fixes were co-ordinated by IV ,
4. The list goes on.. those 3 above are just enough to prove the help an ORGANIZATION did with minimal resources. Also please note none of the core are full time IV , they are also ppl like you and me.
Reason one has donor forum is becoz they are trusted sources. How can one know that you are pro-immigrant or anti-immigrant.
You would see dialy or minutes updates on sites of anti-immigrants becoz they have dedicated members and number base is too high.
Again , no one is shutting door against you, looking at your post i see you are shutting door against yourself just becoz your idea of Fax through AILA is not acceptable as an IV agenda.
Do you know first of all what provisions in CIR 2007 were in there which would have broke the back of ppl on H1 and potential immigrants? Can you confirm which provisions of CIR 2009 if there be one will help you ? will you support CIR even if it says you have to go back to india in no time ? AILA never mentioned in first place whether it would support EB community.
Plain simple, we pay Dollars even to newspaper ... You dont want to contribute for your own cause but get info for free and prove that will raise for your own cause. Those newsletters are for your benefit and collectively for the whole community.
Still IV is posting info to non-paying members , IV Never shuts its door but with limited resources they are doing what they can. Before complaining on IV you do your part. :cool:
Hope this helps you to rethink differently...
Also , FYI... AILA doesnt post all messages to free members .. all the critical info is circulated via PAID members of AILA.. this is part of any organization ... Can you complain against AILA, becoz if you are FREE member of AILA you still get emails like the one reg. Fax to CIR... There is a lot going in background for CIR than many of us even know...
Paskal, You are right - I do not understand. But mostly I cannot understand because as an organisation - you do not explain. Frankly, all I can do is register my disappointment at both your response and your attitude.While I get it that IV is actively involved in doing things over the years aimed at resolving this issue, I might feel that I could respect and maybe even understand these efforts better if IV kept its website up to date and all members who sign in updated on what's happening.
I have often seen threads on this site that have members complaining that IV is not doing anything - to which invariably the response is that one should join the donor forum. On the other hand we get newsletters from admin that ask up to tighten our belts etc. - and get more involved. Well, that cannot happen unless IV provides more updated information on what IV is actually doing, veiled references to behind the scenes activity and years of hard work are not enough to involve all those who have signed up here to become 'more involved'.
As for this discussion going nowhere I could not agree more - you see to have an open discussion or indeed debate - there must be at least 2 willing participants. And since you have already decided that you do not have time for the Qs of a mere non-paying member of this forum, I do not expect any better.
By the way, the way ahead is not to close doors, but to welcome questions and encourge those on this forum with curiosity to be more active. More often than not, I have seen that those who Q on this forum, are mocked, ignored, and treated as if they are wasting CORE's time. Sad for a forum that hopes to involve a wider audience in this issue.
Thanks!!
Raji
here are some atleast, immaterial you agree or not:
1. If ppl are reaping benefits of EAD for multiple years , its becoz of IV.
2. whole of July fiasco was a win becoz of IV , not sure whether you are in the boat, but i can see the pain and how IV helped all of us.
3. all the admin fixes were co-ordinated by IV ,
4. The list goes on.. those 3 above are just enough to prove the help an ORGANIZATION did with minimal resources. Also please note none of the core are full time IV , they are also ppl like you and me.
Reason one has donor forum is becoz they are trusted sources. How can one know that you are pro-immigrant or anti-immigrant.
You would see dialy or minutes updates on sites of anti-immigrants becoz they have dedicated members and number base is too high.
Again , no one is shutting door against you, looking at your post i see you are shutting door against yourself just becoz your idea of Fax through AILA is not acceptable as an IV agenda.
Do you know first of all what provisions in CIR 2007 were in there which would have broke the back of ppl on H1 and potential immigrants? Can you confirm which provisions of CIR 2009 if there be one will help you ? will you support CIR even if it says you have to go back to india in no time ? AILA never mentioned in first place whether it would support EB community.
Plain simple, we pay Dollars even to newspaper ... You dont want to contribute for your own cause but get info for free and prove that will raise for your own cause. Those newsletters are for your benefit and collectively for the whole community.
Still IV is posting info to non-paying members , IV Never shuts its door but with limited resources they are doing what they can. Before complaining on IV you do your part. :cool:
Hope this helps you to rethink differently...
Also , FYI... AILA doesnt post all messages to free members .. all the critical info is circulated via PAID members of AILA.. this is part of any organization ... Can you complain against AILA, becoz if you are FREE member of AILA you still get emails like the one reg. Fax to CIR... There is a lot going in background for CIR than many of us even know...
Paskal, You are right - I do not understand. But mostly I cannot understand because as an organisation - you do not explain. Frankly, all I can do is register my disappointment at both your response and your attitude.While I get it that IV is actively involved in doing things over the years aimed at resolving this issue, I might feel that I could respect and maybe even understand these efforts better if IV kept its website up to date and all members who sign in updated on what's happening.
I have often seen threads on this site that have members complaining that IV is not doing anything - to which invariably the response is that one should join the donor forum. On the other hand we get newsletters from admin that ask up to tighten our belts etc. - and get more involved. Well, that cannot happen unless IV provides more updated information on what IV is actually doing, veiled references to behind the scenes activity and years of hard work are not enough to involve all those who have signed up here to become 'more involved'.
As for this discussion going nowhere I could not agree more - you see to have an open discussion or indeed debate - there must be at least 2 willing participants. And since you have already decided that you do not have time for the Qs of a mere non-paying member of this forum, I do not expect any better.
By the way, the way ahead is not to close doors, but to welcome questions and encourge those on this forum with curiosity to be more active. More often than not, I have seen that those who Q on this forum, are mocked, ignored, and treated as if they are wasting CORE's time. Sad for a forum that hopes to involve a wider audience in this issue.
Thanks!!
Raji
sanjaymk
07-16 04:36 PM
signed and done.
Sanjay.
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amitga
01-29 10:05 PM
People cannot pay $20 in immigration voice, but they are willing to pay $10K for sub labor.
Anyway I think in the next few months people will buy labor like crazy, and file I140 preminum.
Anyway I think in the next few months people will buy labor like crazy, and file I140 preminum.
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another one
02-13 04:48 PM
You are right, we don't have an open enough mind to accept that Santa exists.
I realize that there is no point in telling you guys anything. When you don't have an open mind, you can not accept the facts. It's like banging your heads against steel wall. When you are not even ready to diagnose the disease, there is little hope you will be able to cure it. Denial is a beautiful thing.
So I apologize for my comments.
Here is something you will love:
Congratulations IV and the core team! Keep up the good work.
I realize that there is no point in telling you guys anything. When you don't have an open mind, you can not accept the facts. It's like banging your heads against steel wall. When you are not even ready to diagnose the disease, there is little hope you will be able to cure it. Denial is a beautiful thing.
So I apologize for my comments.
Here is something you will love:
Congratulations IV and the core team! Keep up the good work.
logiclife
02-13 02:21 PM
Thanks for understanding.
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sparuthi
09-17 01:48 PM
I am not seeing any movement in the video. I can just see the American Eagle on the screen? any idea whats going on.. ? ??
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chanduv23
12-08 11:11 AM
excellent stuff - everyone must send their stories. Kudos to this thread starter - please keep this thread on top.
Mods - can we hardwire this thread?
Mods - can we hardwire this thread?
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07-14 08:34 PM
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07-18 09:15 AM
Date Delivered To USCIS: July 2
Time Delivered To USCIS: 10.30 AM
Service Center: TSC
Rejected: Dont Know
Time Delivered To USCIS: 10.30 AM
Service Center: TSC
Rejected: Dont Know
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rongha_2000
11-02 02:56 PM
What are you smoking dude? You 100 people go back, 1000s more are in line to replace them. Get real..!!
Let us all have a rally to move back to our countries on 4July2008 to symbolically show that we want our Freedom and Independence and never return back.
If all the articles about reverse brain drain we are reading about is true they would do something to solve this GC situation. Otherwise the anti-immigrants will come to see us off while we depart this country and never to return back as H1B's trying to get GC's and live here. This will go into history, 30yrs from now and our grandchildren will read about it. And may be we will get some special pension at our home countries for returning back and helping it to do better.
Please take the poll to indicate if you would participate in this QUIT AMERICA MOVEMENT FOR OUR FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE
Let us all have a rally to move back to our countries on 4July2008 to symbolically show that we want our Freedom and Independence and never return back.
If all the articles about reverse brain drain we are reading about is true they would do something to solve this GC situation. Otherwise the anti-immigrants will come to see us off while we depart this country and never to return back as H1B's trying to get GC's and live here. This will go into history, 30yrs from now and our grandchildren will read about it. And may be we will get some special pension at our home countries for returning back and helping it to do better.
Please take the poll to indicate if you would participate in this QUIT AMERICA MOVEMENT FOR OUR FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE
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kumarc123
11-03 08:27 AM
reasons...
I have seen many of my friends doing H1 for their spouses..... while their spouces have no experience what so ever..... employers help them cook their resumes..... in these cases employee has something to hide.... so they pay
H1 fees, stay on bench for few months......and never complain...
Now a days many companies send people on L1 visa. On L1 you have no choice. If you can't get H1 in April you are slave to the employer.... also with L1 there is no stipulated salary like H1.... so employers pay whatever they feel like and not market rate.....but since many employees have desire to stick around in US and save some Green... pay of their debts in home country.... they stay with same employer without complaining......
That is so TRUE! Ask me I finished my undergraduate from US, and I didn't get selected in the H1 lottery system 3 times, yes 3 times. Neither my wife's labor was cleared in July fiasco. So imagine my situation.
So,
who do I blame? US govt? Or these Desi companies who have exploited H1B system to the core, abusing the system and making our lives miserable each day. Well I am about to join an organization, which will report these Desi companies straight to Department of Commerce, there are a group of students from other Universities who are planning to be a part of the organization.
I have seen many of my friends doing H1 for their spouses..... while their spouces have no experience what so ever..... employers help them cook their resumes..... in these cases employee has something to hide.... so they pay
H1 fees, stay on bench for few months......and never complain...
Now a days many companies send people on L1 visa. On L1 you have no choice. If you can't get H1 in April you are slave to the employer.... also with L1 there is no stipulated salary like H1.... so employers pay whatever they feel like and not market rate.....but since many employees have desire to stick around in US and save some Green... pay of their debts in home country.... they stay with same employer without complaining......
That is so TRUE! Ask me I finished my undergraduate from US, and I didn't get selected in the H1 lottery system 3 times, yes 3 times. Neither my wife's labor was cleared in July fiasco. So imagine my situation.
So,
who do I blame? US govt? Or these Desi companies who have exploited H1B system to the core, abusing the system and making our lives miserable each day. Well I am about to join an organization, which will report these Desi companies straight to Department of Commerce, there are a group of students from other Universities who are planning to be a part of the organization.
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eb3_nepa
05-01 04:18 PM
As of yesterday it was $ 107,246. Will update the action alerts tonight and then shut down the 150K drive.
Obviously we didnt meet the target. Today is the last day.
Thanks,
So what happens now? Does this affect QGA's involvement with us?
Obviously we didnt meet the target. Today is the last day.
Thanks,
So what happens now? Does this affect QGA's involvement with us?
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jthomas
05-08 10:29 PM
Congrats desi3933.
Start applying for a job. A better keyword would be "US citizen + <your field of interest>.
Find a job for Citizen only and enjoy life.
Start applying for a job. A better keyword would be "US citizen + <your field of interest>.
Find a job for Citizen only and enjoy life.
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pragir
07-18 09:36 AM
Date Delivered To USCIS: 7/2/07
Service Center: NSC
Rejected: Dont Know
PD: Feb 2004, EB2 India
Service Center: NSC
Rejected: Dont Know
PD: Feb 2004, EB2 India
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delhiguy
07-17 02:40 PM
I am totally with you , I am not looking for EAD/AP I just need my GC.So that i can plan my life.
We need more efforts to request the government to look into our problems.
I pay lot of taxes, social security and still its easier for others to get a GC and not me...
I also belive we should not use Gandhigiri , to request something , which was against the priniciples of Gandhi... but sab chalta hai..
I don't know why but we tend to be satisfied with lsmall benefits...
I agree with you "something (EAD and AP) is better than nothing"
But i bet you ..you will find your self in the same situation of agony and endless waiting for the final Green card.
I bet most of the people don't use your ead and AP as it puts you in a gray "Adjustment of status". They are good to have though. But you will see...how painful it is to decide to use them or not..
What i want to say is that being able to apply for EAD and AP is not the end of the battle..you will be stuck in a depressing situation waiting for the final green card.How do i know? .. I went through it...waiting for GC for the past 4 years.
I dont know its FBI or its just the USCIS incompetence but waiting in the final stage is horrible. Every time you travel you are scared...AP as for as my lawyer goes IT does not guarantee 100% entry in to the country.
After you apply for AP its only 1 year H1 increments.
What i am saying why dont we try for the overall improvement of the GC processing. Why dont we be firm about not wasting the GC numbers and recapturing the unused numbers.
We had a small revolt (peaceful way) and its successful.We dont want to stop there.
LETS FIGHT FOR THE OVERALL IMPROVEMENT OF THE GC PROCESSING
I hope you guys are with me..looking for your comments
We need more efforts to request the government to look into our problems.
I pay lot of taxes, social security and still its easier for others to get a GC and not me...
I also belive we should not use Gandhigiri , to request something , which was against the priniciples of Gandhi... but sab chalta hai..
I don't know why but we tend to be satisfied with lsmall benefits...
I agree with you "something (EAD and AP) is better than nothing"
But i bet you ..you will find your self in the same situation of agony and endless waiting for the final Green card.
I bet most of the people don't use your ead and AP as it puts you in a gray "Adjustment of status". They are good to have though. But you will see...how painful it is to decide to use them or not..
What i want to say is that being able to apply for EAD and AP is not the end of the battle..you will be stuck in a depressing situation waiting for the final green card.How do i know? .. I went through it...waiting for GC for the past 4 years.
I dont know its FBI or its just the USCIS incompetence but waiting in the final stage is horrible. Every time you travel you are scared...AP as for as my lawyer goes IT does not guarantee 100% entry in to the country.
After you apply for AP its only 1 year H1 increments.
What i am saying why dont we try for the overall improvement of the GC processing. Why dont we be firm about not wasting the GC numbers and recapturing the unused numbers.
We had a small revolt (peaceful way) and its successful.We dont want to stop there.
LETS FIGHT FOR THE OVERALL IMPROVEMENT OF THE GC PROCESSING
I hope you guys are with me..looking for your comments
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fatnslow
06-19 12:39 PM
Just wondering, how do you actually skin it? New layers etc, how do you apply colors etc etc. Just a small question from a PS noob :P
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Dhundhun
12-12 09:36 PM
I am not able to start and feel that there is already hidden membership is there. Is there any thuth in this feeling? How does IV is working in terms of access rights?
IV is already not member friendly. With 25,000 members, raising 30,000 is getting so difficult. Why so? I once posed the question and moderators conveniently deleted it.
IV is already not member friendly. With 25,000 members, raising 30,000 is getting so difficult. Why so? I once posed the question and moderators conveniently deleted it.
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meetpravee
03-30 02:41 PM
I have read about LUD's so much in the forum. Can somebody please post a link/explain where I can see/track these changes.
Caliber
04-26 09:22 AM
Not a bit. If you want I can give you a plenty... L1 is for intercompany transfer. But So far I have seen companies put people only at the client place and their salary is starting at 32K and they are put up at extended staty, asked to share the cab or car. So let me know if you want and I can directly let you talk to those guys.
Yes, you can work for $8 but there is something called law. I have personelly checked their labor which states 55K. But they are paid only 32K.
So our common goal is to fix the broken system, remove the employer's undue advantage over the employee. No matter if they are MNC or desi consulting companies. Why the employee is tied to the employer when there is the need/demand for the skill set. Thats the only thing which is driving down the wages.
I fully agree with this. L1's being placed at Client's place is ILLEGAL. I have several proof's of this. TCS, Infy, CTS and LT do FAVOR their employees with a gift of filing in EB1 because these guys WOULD not complain to any one what they are paid and their benefits.
Any one want proof's?
Yes, you can work for $8 but there is something called law. I have personelly checked their labor which states 55K. But they are paid only 32K.
So our common goal is to fix the broken system, remove the employer's undue advantage over the employee. No matter if they are MNC or desi consulting companies. Why the employee is tied to the employer when there is the need/demand for the skill set. Thats the only thing which is driving down the wages.
I fully agree with this. L1's being placed at Client's place is ILLEGAL. I have several proof's of this. TCS, Infy, CTS and LT do FAVOR their employees with a gift of filing in EB1 because these guys WOULD not complain to any one what they are paid and their benefits.
Any one want proof's?
chicago60607
09-17 12:51 PM
FInally on recording the vote it actually failed. May be the chair wanted the amendment to pass.
Man, I gave you a green just for the Megatron reference!
By the way, wasn't it Starscream who says "The ayes have it" before dumping them out in space :)
Man, I gave you a green just for the Megatron reference!
By the way, wasn't it Starscream who says "The ayes have it" before dumping them out in space :)
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