sanju
02-26 09:14 PM
On a positive note, the best that we can do is, learn from our surroundings. We can learn a lot from Republicans to understand what not to do.
One of the main reason why Obama enjoys high rating - Republican party sucks. Who is making Republican party look bad - Republicans. The best response to Obama is not to pitch twisted Jindal against Obama, because that just makes Obama look good and it help Democrats. The better response to Obama is, let Obama respond against Obama. So simply don't respond to Obama, which will prevent Republicans making him look good. And like every politician, Obama will commit mistakes, which will cause the demise of Democrats. Its that simple. So what do we learn from this?
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One of the main reason why Obama enjoys high rating - Republican party sucks. Who is making Republican party look bad - Republicans. The best response to Obama is not to pitch twisted Jindal against Obama, because that just makes Obama look good and it help Democrats. The better response to Obama is, let Obama respond against Obama. So simply don't respond to Obama, which will prevent Republicans making him look good. And like every politician, Obama will commit mistakes, which will cause the demise of Democrats. Its that simple. So what do we learn from this?
.
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bikram_das_in
04-14 01:46 PM
This is a good idea. The truth is - to support a bill, you need hundreds of thousands of dollars and few million people supporting it. The agenda IV has, if couple of them get Washington's nod, we will all get GCs. The problem is getting them into congress and eventually getting it passed.
Can we propose a bill which would give us - the honest, sincere, law abiding aliens - a time bound path to Green Card and Citizenship?
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The current system is designed to favour ONLY the employers and the law firms, not the humble, hard working EB class slave who toils.
Can we propose a bill which would give us - the honest, sincere, law abiding aliens - a time bound path to Green Card and Citizenship?
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The current system is designed to favour ONLY the employers and the law firms, not the humble, hard working EB class slave who toils.
sabhayk
04-18 12:31 PM
Guys,
We cannot have the letter from the school until we graduate and I guess many of us are in the same boat.
Any updates on the count yet??? other than they were 7011 left on 10th Apr
We cannot have the letter from the school until we graduate and I guess many of us are in the same boat.
Any updates on the count yet??? other than they were 7011 left on 10th Apr
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willwin
07-11 12:23 AM
it goes deeper than that. first let me point out that this is philosophical- you argument is not about law, it's about a point of view.
so if i ask you why EB2 filers should spend extra years getting educated and never getting this all important magic "PD" and then get in line behind someone who got a job the day they entered the country- and got a PD soon enough- what would you say?
ask me. it took me 11 years to get a PD. why? for 7 of those years i was getting my advanced education. so why should i suffer behind the 3 year Indian degree person (against my 7 years there as well) who came in 5 years after me and filed right away?
there are reasons why the EB priorities were set up. by simply extending your logic EB1 should also wait for a turn and not have priority. what's good for the goose....
having said that, it is absolutely insane to ask people to wait indefinitely and we must do something about it.
today the EB3 folks (and I have nothing against them, their waits are insane- and it's absolutely not right) are porting to EB2 with those bachelors degrees and 5 years experience. and just because they could APPLY for a GC earlier and all their years get counted in the PD, they keep lining up ahead of me. why do all my years count for NOTHING?
please spare us "fortunate" EB2s a thought too. think of when in life our careers are finally freed from waiting for a GC.
and now please concentrate on ways to end retrogression and stop the EB2 vs EB3 crap. we all have our problems.
I should clarify few points here:
1. Let EB2 be wonder kids. All I am saying is their GC shouldn't be at the cost of EB3. Have a separate quota which is twice as much as EB3. But, when the left overs are up in the air, EB2 shouldn't grab everything.
2. Not all EB3 are with 3 years Indian degree. Most of them are 4 years and above. Please prove me wrong. There are several Master degree holders in EB3 queue just because of their employer decision (not even job requirements).
4. Most people filed under EB3 way back in 2001/2002 because they didn't antici pate such a mess 5-6 years down the road.
5. Today most applications are EB2? How? does it mean that the '3 years' Indian degree holders are not coming to US anymore? Nope. These days people just ', manage' to file under EB2.
6. Finally, EB2 would understand what we (EB3) are saying if the EB1 queue was retrogressed and EB2 was stuck in 2001.
There is no separate quota while applying for H1B but at the final stage of GC! Ridiculous!!
Bottom line, a VISA that could impact an individual's life so much should not be dragged for 7-8 years. And, thank you for your concern for EB3.
so if i ask you why EB2 filers should spend extra years getting educated and never getting this all important magic "PD" and then get in line behind someone who got a job the day they entered the country- and got a PD soon enough- what would you say?
ask me. it took me 11 years to get a PD. why? for 7 of those years i was getting my advanced education. so why should i suffer behind the 3 year Indian degree person (against my 7 years there as well) who came in 5 years after me and filed right away?
there are reasons why the EB priorities were set up. by simply extending your logic EB1 should also wait for a turn and not have priority. what's good for the goose....
having said that, it is absolutely insane to ask people to wait indefinitely and we must do something about it.
today the EB3 folks (and I have nothing against them, their waits are insane- and it's absolutely not right) are porting to EB2 with those bachelors degrees and 5 years experience. and just because they could APPLY for a GC earlier and all their years get counted in the PD, they keep lining up ahead of me. why do all my years count for NOTHING?
please spare us "fortunate" EB2s a thought too. think of when in life our careers are finally freed from waiting for a GC.
and now please concentrate on ways to end retrogression and stop the EB2 vs EB3 crap. we all have our problems.
I should clarify few points here:
1. Let EB2 be wonder kids. All I am saying is their GC shouldn't be at the cost of EB3. Have a separate quota which is twice as much as EB3. But, when the left overs are up in the air, EB2 shouldn't grab everything.
2. Not all EB3 are with 3 years Indian degree. Most of them are 4 years and above. Please prove me wrong. There are several Master degree holders in EB3 queue just because of their employer decision (not even job requirements).
4. Most people filed under EB3 way back in 2001/2002 because they didn't antici pate such a mess 5-6 years down the road.
5. Today most applications are EB2? How? does it mean that the '3 years' Indian degree holders are not coming to US anymore? Nope. These days people just ', manage' to file under EB2.
6. Finally, EB2 would understand what we (EB3) are saying if the EB1 queue was retrogressed and EB2 was stuck in 2001.
There is no separate quota while applying for H1B but at the final stage of GC! Ridiculous!!
Bottom line, a VISA that could impact an individual's life so much should not be dragged for 7-8 years. And, thank you for your concern for EB3.
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Humhongekamyab
11-13 10:58 AM
I agree. You should take the advice of a lawyer first. Local cops and immigration are seperate branches. When you report a crime, in my opinion, the cops don't ask you for your immigration status before starting their investigations. Even if they do, they are not going to tell the immigration that a person on H-1B has hired someone who is not authorized to work. It is best to see an good attorney who might change you couple of hundred dollars only.
As hpandey said, the reason she continues to work is because she continues to find jobs with people who are looking for Indian nanny and most of such people are willing to look the other way when it comes to nannys immigration status because the nanny charges less or maybe because the nanny speaks your local language and apart from taking care of your kids also cooks for you while you are out working. If you report her to the cops it will make sure that she and others like her never do such a thing again. It will send a message to all such unauthorized workers to stop misusing their immigration status. Also, you might be able to save other children from similar trauma.
Edit: Sorry I did not read all the postings before posting my reply. Thunderbolt you did the right thing. We all are proud of you.
As hpandey said, the reason she continues to work is because she continues to find jobs with people who are looking for Indian nanny and most of such people are willing to look the other way when it comes to nannys immigration status because the nanny charges less or maybe because the nanny speaks your local language and apart from taking care of your kids also cooks for you while you are out working. If you report her to the cops it will make sure that she and others like her never do such a thing again. It will send a message to all such unauthorized workers to stop misusing their immigration status. Also, you might be able to save other children from similar trauma.
Edit: Sorry I did not read all the postings before posting my reply. Thunderbolt you did the right thing. We all are proud of you.
santb1975
12-01 01:45 AM
We definately need dedicated members like you and recurring contributions
I have made one time contributions twice before, but this time in the spirit of holidays I have signed up for $50 monthly contribution.
I have made one time contributions twice before, but this time in the spirit of holidays I have signed up for $50 monthly contribution.
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gjoe
09-15 10:19 AM
In my humble opinion, we should quit paying money to lobbyist or using them. We can represent out case to the powers or authorities concerned much better than what the lobbyists are doing.
I think while most of america ( people and politicians) doesn't want lobbyists we still hiring lobbyist and paying them money is not right.
I think while most of america ( people and politicians) doesn't want lobbyists we still hiring lobbyist and paying them money is not right.
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qasleuth
02-25 03:49 PM
Dear friends: Thank you all for the wonderful support and willingness to work for this. We need to convert our word to action in the coming days, if IV CORE has a positive feasibility analysis result.
"Nothing preaches better than the act."
~ Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790, American Scientist, Publisher, Diplomat)
So all of you who support this, please think in terms of how you can convert your verbal support into action in some way, in the coming days.
Regarding a HIGH VISIBILITY Campaign
"Sometimes a scalpel is better than a sword"
My opinion: Personally, I am against high visibility campaign for an admin fix. We do not need too much visibilty for an admin fix unlike a legislative fix. In the case of admin fix, we need to focus on those few who can positively act on our request. In this case, those might be Hillary Clinton, Janet Napolitano, USCIS acting director etc. In the case of an admin fix a highly talented, politically skilled, IV delegation should work as the front end of this effort. While all others in the community should raise funds to support this delegation and their activities. We can form regional groups to raise funds on behalf of IV. Many of you can do that. Form groups of 5 at each region and try to arrange an Indian/Chinese movie show in your local theatre for raising funds. You can come up with better ideas than this for raising funds. This is just an idea came to my mind from my limited knowledge.
Totally agree. We should refrain from flamboyant campaigs especially in this environment and request IV delegation to act as our front. Lets raise some serious funds. I can campaign in my place of work amongst I 485 applicants and see what I can do.
"Nothing preaches better than the act."
~ Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790, American Scientist, Publisher, Diplomat)
So all of you who support this, please think in terms of how you can convert your verbal support into action in some way, in the coming days.
Regarding a HIGH VISIBILITY Campaign
"Sometimes a scalpel is better than a sword"
My opinion: Personally, I am against high visibility campaign for an admin fix. We do not need too much visibilty for an admin fix unlike a legislative fix. In the case of admin fix, we need to focus on those few who can positively act on our request. In this case, those might be Hillary Clinton, Janet Napolitano, USCIS acting director etc. In the case of an admin fix a highly talented, politically skilled, IV delegation should work as the front end of this effort. While all others in the community should raise funds to support this delegation and their activities. We can form regional groups to raise funds on behalf of IV. Many of you can do that. Form groups of 5 at each region and try to arrange an Indian/Chinese movie show in your local theatre for raising funds. You can come up with better ideas than this for raising funds. This is just an idea came to my mind from my limited knowledge.
Totally agree. We should refrain from flamboyant campaigs especially in this environment and request IV delegation to act as our front. Lets raise some serious funds. I can campaign in my place of work amongst I 485 applicants and see what I can do.
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mvinayam
08-14 12:22 PM
Hi All,
My cheques got encashed & based yesterday.
Application filied on : July 2
Service Center : NSC
I-140 approved on Jun 2006 from TSC
LUD of I-140 : 07/28/2007
Recp.No starts as : "SRCxxxxxxxx"
so looks like though I filied the application at NSC based on the working location it got transferred to TSC as my I-140 has been approved by TSC.
Thanks
MV
My cheques got encashed & based yesterday.
Application filied on : July 2
Service Center : NSC
I-140 approved on Jun 2006 from TSC
LUD of I-140 : 07/28/2007
Recp.No starts as : "SRCxxxxxxxx"
so looks like though I filied the application at NSC based on the working location it got transferred to TSC as my I-140 has been approved by TSC.
Thanks
MV
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Carlau
02-02 08:36 PM
What is the meaning of Schedule A? Do they help us? Thanks.
Schedule A is for Registered Nurses and Physical Therapists
Schedule A is for Registered Nurses and Physical Therapists
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singhsa3
09-08 04:38 PM
You really are getting on my nerves now.
You are no future predictor... How can you say Strive Act is doomed?...
You as well as I know that we need just handful (probably four) of votes to pass this bill.
The rally is being done to lobby for the support. And if those undecided lawmakers come into our camp then we will win and you will LOSE!
Granted Native Americans were here first but at that time America was just a land inhabited by people and it was not a nation. A nation is defined as having the following characteristics (These are UN definitions)
1. Has space or territory which has internationally recognized .
2. Has people who live there on an ongoing basis.
3. Has economic activity and an organized economy. A country regulates foreign and domestic trade and issues money.
4. Has the power of social engineering, such as education.
5. Has a transportation system for moving goods and people.
6. Has a government which provides public services and police power.
7. Has sovereignty. No other State should have power over the country's territory.
8. Has external recognition. A country has been "voted into the club" by other countries.
So America was never a nation before it became America.
Regarding you second point about Columbus, Christopher Columbus was not here look for a promised land, he and other pioneers were here to find trading opportunities. Get your history straight, India was known for Spices and Gold at that time and the pioneer wanted a piece of it. Now India has nothing to offer, other then a piece of its humongous population.
Regarding your points about, starting a company, I have already answered them before
You are no future predictor... How can you say Strive Act is doomed?...
You as well as I know that we need just handful (probably four) of votes to pass this bill.
The rally is being done to lobby for the support. And if those undecided lawmakers come into our camp then we will win and you will LOSE!
Granted Native Americans were here first but at that time America was just a land inhabited by people and it was not a nation. A nation is defined as having the following characteristics (These are UN definitions)
1. Has space or territory which has internationally recognized .
2. Has people who live there on an ongoing basis.
3. Has economic activity and an organized economy. A country regulates foreign and domestic trade and issues money.
4. Has the power of social engineering, such as education.
5. Has a transportation system for moving goods and people.
6. Has a government which provides public services and police power.
7. Has sovereignty. No other State should have power over the country's territory.
8. Has external recognition. A country has been "voted into the club" by other countries.
So America was never a nation before it became America.
Regarding you second point about Columbus, Christopher Columbus was not here look for a promised land, he and other pioneers were here to find trading opportunities. Get your history straight, India was known for Spices and Gold at that time and the pioneer wanted a piece of it. Now India has nothing to offer, other then a piece of its humongous population.
Regarding your points about, starting a company, I have already answered them before
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needhelp!
06-14 12:28 PM
The July fiasco has led many of our members to get their EADs and has lulled them into false security. If your goal is just EAD, please continue with what you are doing but if your goal is to get green card or citizenship - NOW has to be your wake up call.
StarSun: Thanks for all your work for IV!
StarSun: Thanks for all your work for IV!
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ruchigup
08-20 01:42 PM
InfoPass. (http://infopass.uscis.gov/)
select language
Click Make your appointment button
After inputting zip code
I select the 4th checkbox "You need information or other services "
I suspect you must be selecting the first checkbox that sounds like more logical choice, but I have taken appointment using the above procedure last year, it works.
Are you folks opening a Service request before taking an Infopass appointment? When I visit the site, it says that it needs an SR number. Am I missing something?
select language
Click Make your appointment button
After inputting zip code
I select the 4th checkbox "You need information or other services "
I suspect you must be selecting the first checkbox that sounds like more logical choice, but I have taken appointment using the above procedure last year, it works.
Are you folks opening a Service request before taking an Infopass appointment? When I visit the site, it says that it needs an SR number. Am I missing something?
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qasleuth
12-09 03:36 PM
What is pathetic is your blindness to discern right from wrong.
I certainly expected a better articulated reply than a brilliant one-liner.
Anyways, not sure why you are so hung up on the person being illegal so she deserves what she got line. You may have to step back and look at what the larger trend here is. You and I can be the next target (see slippery slope article below).
Here are the underlying reasons for the outrage apart from the basic indecency of shackling a pregnant woman:
Wonk Room � Sheriff Joe Arpaio Admits Clothing, Speech, And Conduct Help Determine If Someone Is ‘Illegal’ (http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/10/08/joe-arpaio-287g/)
Wonk Room � Joe Arpaio: ‘Illegals’ Are ‘All Dirty,’ Should Be ‘Checked’ Like ‘Fruits and Vegetables’ (http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/10/09/joe-arpaio-gq-magazine/)
Arpaio Racial Profiling Accusations | Criteria for Determining Illegal Status? (http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/phoenix/sheriff_racial_profiling_accusations_10_20_2009)
Immigration -- Arpaio's Abuse Of Power (http://pr.thinkprogress.org/2009/11/pr20091103)
Here is why it is a slippery slope>
New Study Finds Dramatic Problems with 287(g) Immigration Program | ACLU of North Carolina (http://acluofnc.org/?q=new-study-finds-dramatic-problems-287g-immigration-program)
Increase in unsolved crimes >
http://www.goldwaterinstitute.org/Common/Img/052109%20Bolick%20Justice%20Denied.pdf
I certainly expected a better articulated reply than a brilliant one-liner.
Anyways, not sure why you are so hung up on the person being illegal so she deserves what she got line. You may have to step back and look at what the larger trend here is. You and I can be the next target (see slippery slope article below).
Here are the underlying reasons for the outrage apart from the basic indecency of shackling a pregnant woman:
Wonk Room � Sheriff Joe Arpaio Admits Clothing, Speech, And Conduct Help Determine If Someone Is ‘Illegal’ (http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/10/08/joe-arpaio-287g/)
Wonk Room � Joe Arpaio: ‘Illegals’ Are ‘All Dirty,’ Should Be ‘Checked’ Like ‘Fruits and Vegetables’ (http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/10/09/joe-arpaio-gq-magazine/)
Arpaio Racial Profiling Accusations | Criteria for Determining Illegal Status? (http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/local/phoenix/sheriff_racial_profiling_accusations_10_20_2009)
Immigration -- Arpaio's Abuse Of Power (http://pr.thinkprogress.org/2009/11/pr20091103)
Here is why it is a slippery slope>
New Study Finds Dramatic Problems with 287(g) Immigration Program | ACLU of North Carolina (http://acluofnc.org/?q=new-study-finds-dramatic-problems-287g-immigration-program)
Increase in unsolved crimes >
http://www.goldwaterinstitute.org/Common/Img/052109%20Bolick%20Justice%20Denied.pdf
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pappu
06-07 01:44 PM
Advocacy day is going well. There are about 300 meetings being planed between today and tomorrow. Its very hectic in the situation room.
This afternoon USCIS Ombudsman came to meet us in the situation room and spoke with the members. More details and pictures will be posted soon. Stay tuned.
This afternoon USCIS Ombudsman came to meet us in the situation room and spoke with the members. More details and pictures will be posted soon. Stay tuned.
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chanduv23
07-05 10:01 PM
I think that the IV core is aware of this campaign. They are not against it, as far as I understand, though obviously, there is no direct endorsement from them either.
I think this is a great idea to get media attention - something different and unique, and media always loves these things. The only thing that can doom it to failure is lack of enough numbers.
If we go and tell a journalist about this campaign, the first question we will be asked is, "how many flowers are you talking about?" and if our answer would 50 or 100, then the story dies right there. 250,000 affected skilled immigrants and only 100 of them are enthu enough to send flowers - well that's no story :rolleyes:.
So the only thing I can say is that at worst, this action will do you no harm and you will be out of 30-40 dollars. But at best, this can give us a media spotlight - and I think it is worth it.
Well no one wants to spend $20 to contribute to IV but ready $30 for flowers and post it to Gonzalez :)
The idea that core wants to float is to have an effective campaign under the IV umbrella. Please come up with more innovative ideas and discuss with core.
I think this is a great idea to get media attention - something different and unique, and media always loves these things. The only thing that can doom it to failure is lack of enough numbers.
If we go and tell a journalist about this campaign, the first question we will be asked is, "how many flowers are you talking about?" and if our answer would 50 or 100, then the story dies right there. 250,000 affected skilled immigrants and only 100 of them are enthu enough to send flowers - well that's no story :rolleyes:.
So the only thing I can say is that at worst, this action will do you no harm and you will be out of 30-40 dollars. But at best, this can give us a media spotlight - and I think it is worth it.
Well no one wants to spend $20 to contribute to IV but ready $30 for flowers and post it to Gonzalez :)
The idea that core wants to float is to have an effective campaign under the IV umbrella. Please come up with more innovative ideas and discuss with core.
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ssa
07-17 08:06 PM
You guys are awesome! Thanks a lot!
This should put all the skepticism about IV to rest. I'm sure we will look back at this event as a turning point from where IV grew strength to strength...
This should put all the skepticism about IV to rest. I'm sure we will look back at this event as a turning point from where IV grew strength to strength...
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Immi_Nightmare
07-05 08:09 PM
Guys, any reason why we have a whopping 70% of the members not interested in contributing to this idea??
There is nothing illegal or offensive in a humble protest, so why the lack of interest?? Are you worried that you'll be pulled up for a humble protest?
It's not even that expensive to send a bunch of flowers. We have to come together and do something here to implore the USCIS to reform the immigration process. Just lurking around , and not doing anything about this is not going to bring about any reforms to this dysfunctional system.
I would love to know the rationale behind your lack of interest. Appreciate if you can speak up as to why you wouldn't want to join in. Atleast let us know if you have a better idea. Doing nothing and playing the wait-and-see game is probably the worst option.
There is nothing illegal or offensive in a humble protest, so why the lack of interest?? Are you worried that you'll be pulled up for a humble protest?
It's not even that expensive to send a bunch of flowers. We have to come together and do something here to implore the USCIS to reform the immigration process. Just lurking around , and not doing anything about this is not going to bring about any reforms to this dysfunctional system.
I would love to know the rationale behind your lack of interest. Appreciate if you can speak up as to why you wouldn't want to join in. Atleast let us know if you have a better idea. Doing nothing and playing the wait-and-see game is probably the worst option.
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sugaur
12-10 09:25 AM
And your post is oozing with the milk of human kindness....
MerciesOfInjustices
12-20 07:40 AM
Great solid show - anurakt, paskal and of course, pappu! And, everybody else as well!
Just had chance to look up the Forum, in the midst of a major move, and I am impressed!
Our strength is our motivation & our resolve to never, ever give up!
Just sent a modest contribution $100, will be pitching in more!
Let us collect the war chest for the upcoming battles!
Just had chance to look up the Forum, in the midst of a major move, and I am impressed!
Our strength is our motivation & our resolve to never, ever give up!
Just sent a modest contribution $100, will be pitching in more!
Let us collect the war chest for the upcoming battles!
Sherman_tribiani
09-08 02:36 PM
I love the mild tone of your message. Jobs are no water in sun that they will evaporate. But if they do, I am not stopping you to take those jobs back home�.
And I do notice large number of engineers, doctors, architects who are immigrants, and that�s what concerns me.
I would re-insist that Rallies are worthless and not worth your time. Your country is growing economically and you should spend you time looking for a job back home instead.
My friend Mr. Sherman Tribiani,
First of all, thanks for sharing your opinion with us. What you are doing right now is what makes this country great. Right to express yourself with freedom as guaranteed by the 1st amendment. We will express ourselves on 18th.
Yes, you may end up blocking strive act, but what will happen then is all your jobs are going to start disappearing to eastern europe, China, India and any other place possible. I don't know if you work in high skilled labor market but if you do, I am sure you must have noticed the large number of engineers, doctors, architects who are immigrants and contributing to this society. Anyway, I think discussing this point with you is pointless.
Anyways, you are welcome on this forum. You can express your opinion as much as you want. I don't think we (or you for that matter) are going to gain anything by arguing online. We will have the rally and see what happens. I will do my duty(the rally) and leave the rest to God. Wish you all the best in your efforts. I hope whatever issues you have work out for you.
And I do notice large number of engineers, doctors, architects who are immigrants, and that�s what concerns me.
I would re-insist that Rallies are worthless and not worth your time. Your country is growing economically and you should spend you time looking for a job back home instead.
My friend Mr. Sherman Tribiani,
First of all, thanks for sharing your opinion with us. What you are doing right now is what makes this country great. Right to express yourself with freedom as guaranteed by the 1st amendment. We will express ourselves on 18th.
Yes, you may end up blocking strive act, but what will happen then is all your jobs are going to start disappearing to eastern europe, China, India and any other place possible. I don't know if you work in high skilled labor market but if you do, I am sure you must have noticed the large number of engineers, doctors, architects who are immigrants and contributing to this society. Anyway, I think discussing this point with you is pointless.
Anyways, you are welcome on this forum. You can express your opinion as much as you want. I don't think we (or you for that matter) are going to gain anything by arguing online. We will have the rally and see what happens. I will do my duty(the rally) and leave the rest to God. Wish you all the best in your efforts. I hope whatever issues you have work out for you.
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